Catherine Fornwald: A Daughter’s Perspective On Grief And Loss
Even though children are expected to be the ones to take care of their parents later in life, losing them is still a challenging phase to get through. In this episode, we get a daughter’s perspective on grief and loss as I sit down with my own daughter, Catherine Fornwald. Together, we look back on the day we lost my husband and her father, as well as how we dealt with the grieving process that followed. We also provide a unique glimpse into the different ways grief can manifest and the importance of open communication and support within a family. Prepare to be moved by their candid reflections and gain a deeper understanding of the long-lasting effects of grief. I am sharing my experience of loving the same man for 32 years, a mother to two adult children, a retired military officer, a breast cancer survivor, and my connections with others. Anyone experiencing suicidal thoughts should reach out to a suicide hotline or local emergency number in their country: Psychology Today’s Suicide Prevention Hotlines & Resources. — Watch the episode here Listen to the podcast here Catherine Fornwald: A Daughter’s Perspective On Grief And Loss Introduction Catherine, welcome to the Widowhood. Mother, thanks for having me here on the Widowhood. This is great. This is my daughter Catherine, and we are wrapping up 2024 with a conversation with my daughter, raw as possible. I asked for questions ahead of time. She gave my people nothing. I told you, I don’t do questions. We are eating ice cream and having a conversation to make this as less awkward as possible. Don’t let your mother have social media. Reflections On Tina’s Social Media And Nonprofit Journey There’s truth in that. What do you think about your mom having social media? People have asked me before the podcast or the social media accounts, specifically the TikTok and everything. The answer bounces around and how I get there, but at the end, it is hilarious to see you have a social media account because you treat it like a business. That’s fair. You treat it like a business. There’s internal review for yourself, quarterly review. There’s, “How many followers did I have last time? Is this funny to put out for the next video? Am I allowed to make jokes, or should it all be serious and to the podcast?” I remember when you had somewhere between the 500 and the 1,000 followers, and it was very much like, “Should I quit?” You didn’t, obviously, we’re still here, and I don’t know what the number is now, but it’s definitely over 10,000, if not very close to 13. What about social media platforms? TikTok, I think, is doing the best out of all of them. See, that’s interesting. I think it depends on what you judge best to be. Followers and views. It is hard to get followers on YouTube, but on Facebook, we have the private Facebook account. On Instagram, there’s a lot of messaging going on in the background in private. TikTok, there’s a lot of personal engagement. It’s upfront, you can see that. With the podcast, people email me on the back end. The most public success, or the most public interaction, looks like TikTok. It just depends on how you define it. Everything else, that’s like Wizard of Oz behind the curtains. I just look at measuring them differently because in the private Facebook group, and then we have the Discord. I would have never thought to actually have a Discord, but some people that I met on TikTok were talking about a Discord and how you’re able to bring all your community together. The Discord allows people on all social media platforms to come together in one space. There is a question of the week. People are sharing their parenting. From my understanding, it’s supposed to be basically just like a public Zoom, whether you do it over chat or video. To answer your question about what it’s like having a parent who has social media, it’s funny watching you treat it like a business because it very much is to you. Every video is, “This is a 501c3. This is a non-profit.” It’s just like, “Mother, that doesn’t need to be at the end of the video.” I don’t do it all the time anymore. There’s definitely this thing where it’s like you treating it like a business and you wanting it to do well, obviously, and it’s just funny because I’m behind the scenes on the board and everything. On the board of the followers. Very much like the legal aspect of it, the personal aspect to it, so it’s just funny where you’re like, “My numbers aren’t high enough,” but then somebody else is like, “I got a brand deal and my numbers are great.” Do you even look at all the content sometimes? I do. I may not obviously tell you about it, but I check in, I repost, I go to it. You do a lot of that on X. X, Twitter, there’s like the jokes. There’s, “What, I got three retweets? Send in the money.” Like you said, how do you judge the fact that you’re doing well on LinkedIn? LinkedIn has been good for connecting with other people to be guests on their podcasts or for me to be a guest on theirs. That’s why I say, “That would be amazing to do a TED Talk.” That’s a dream. The ranking system for what quantifies being good at social media, getting the jokes to stand, getting three retweets on Twitter, like “money,” and then Instagram is like, “Cool.” Facebook, depending on what you’re using it for, very much is family-friendly, but then since we’re using it as another form of the business aspect of the social media, having five hearts is like, “People saw my stuff.” TikTok and everything, your views-to-ratio can definitely be off,
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